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Welcome to What Would Amber Do? With your host, Amber Howard. Each week, Amber dances in conversation with inspirational leaders, how to make a difference for what matters most to people. She brings you incredible guests who share their real life experiences of being a leader and what it looks like to live a truly created life of service to others. And now, here is your host.

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Welcome back, everyone. Welcome back to What Would Amber Do? It is my absolute pleasure today to have on the show Rosie Carr. Rosie is the founder and creator of Healing with Rosie. After going through what she describes as her darkest place, she has gone on to create a successful coaching practice helping others find free themselves from their own minds. Rosie is an international best-selling author whose commitment is to empower women, helping heal them from the inside out. Rosie, thank you so much for being on the show today. It's so great to have you with us.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Awesome. Thank you actually for having me here. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

Yeah, so tell me a little bit about we, you know, we start this journey with like, how did you get to today? What what's the journey been like for you? What's your experience through life? And and I love it's funny because I I don't think I've said this before on the show. I I start this way because I it gives my guests an opportunity to kind of frame the conversation in a way that um allows them to tell their story and and and and has us start the conversation from there. Because I think I'm always really curious about, especially for people who are doing healing work and and the kind of work that you are. You know, I know that you usually have to go kind of go through the eye of the needle yourself before you can you can be that for other people. So I'm always very curious about, you know, what were your experiences in life that got you to this point today, Rosie?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Well, I actually they always say everything starts when you're young. I learned that through my healing process. So in that way, I would say it started since I was a young girl, where I was not accepted. I was a second daughter born in Indian household. So they were expecting that it would be a boy. So I was three weeks old when I was sent to India with my uh paternal grandmother. And from there on, it was like I was four years old when my parents brought me back, but I didn't accept my mom as my mom. It was just that my grandmother was my everything for me, my paternal grandmother, and then my aunt, who was there, my dad's older brother's wife. And it was that they raised me until four years old. So basically, you're seeing these people as you're growing into a family, right? So you would consider them as your parents. So that was a really difficult stage for me to adapt to. And by the time I was six, I started doing everything. I would make tea at home, help mom kill the onions, do whatever I could. I didn't realize it that I was actually a people pleaser. And I re realized that afterwards that I should not be doing it right. So way after, actually, as I healed, I f I figured out that I was a people pleaser. So um, with that said, I would go to school, come home, help with everything, and then my mom never accepted me.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Right?

SPEAKER_01 3:44

So I was 16 when I had an arranged marriage. We were visiting India for my uh cousin brother's wedding, and uh my husband's from India, I'm from Canada, and I had an arranged marriage then. They accepted that, yeah, you know what, we're gonna pick her as our daughter-in-law, my father-in-law said, and it was just within five days I got married, so I didn't know my husband, nothing. So, as they say, thoughts become things, I would lie there and basically cry. Like, oh my god, I wonder how he's gonna be. I wonder, would he beat me up? Because I see this so much in Indian community, not in my family, like my uncles, aunts, everybody was great, like till now, they have no issues. So I actually sort of brought it on myself. So, as we got into the marriage, there was things that he did not accept me again. And for me, it was like this is it, he is my everything, basically. So that's where my journey actually begins of being more depressed, and then having a child so early when I told him I don't want to have a kid. Um, so basically, after 10 months, I had my first 10 or 11 months, I had my first child as a boy, and then I have six kids with this gentleman, so-called my husband. Um so that was my journey basically, was abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, financial abuse, everything you name it. And that shade me to the woman I am today. I overcame everything basically. I was really sick. My diabetes was out of the roof by the time he left me. And then later, five years later, he's talking to me a little bit now. I met him back in July this year, but you know, it's still even though I have healed, he's still way below. We can't match the frequency I find at times. But with healing, when I did Bob Proctor's program, I healed like phenomenally. Like I'm off of all of my medications. I'm no longer diabetic where I used to land in the hospital every two weeks because my sodium was so low I couldn't open my fingers that it was so bad. And it would look like my fingers literally looked like they were underwater for so long. I don't know if you've ever seen how they look, you know, when you're washing something and you're in water for so long with your fingers, right? So the tips would look like that. So they would have to give me sodium through IV, send me home, sugars would go back up again. I actually literally gave up when I was seeing social workers at diabetes complex care, I was seeing um counselors, psychiatrists, and nothing actually helped. It was like they had a clipboard with a form on it, and on the go asking questions, just writing, but it was not helping. All the medications increased, did not help. I'd become suicidal. I was like giving up on life basically. Yeah. And that's where the turning point actually started happening to me. Was it that I wanted to live or did I want to die? Like everything was in physical form in my body, even I got like scalotherapy for varicose veins done. Varicose veins also are as a blockage in the body. I learned now. Before I always considered it as a medical disease. Um, so I had scalotherapy done, everything turned into like blisters, and the pain was horrible. Doctor sent me home after, oh, it's gonna be just a day pain. I had to literally beg them for painkillers, that's how bad my pain was. And then I had a dental treatment done, and that also flared up, and my chin was up to here. I ended up going to a merch and I kept begging them, oh no, this never happens. I couldn't get a hold of the dentist till the third day they gave me uh neproxin, I think that's it. And they're like, Oh, this is just a classic flare-up. This used to happen in the olden times, we've never witnessed it now. But I was at the hospital and they had to put me on stronger medications to heal, and I did not realize that that was all me because of overthinking, everything started coming into the physical form because how much can your brain even or your mind hold, right? After years of going through so much trauma. So I realized that now I realize it when I look back that oh my god, like this was all me doing it, and I wish a lot of people knew how they can get off, how they can heal themselves and all cute.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

I am so first, I'm really sorry that you had those experiences, Rosie. Like it's an awakening, it is, and and I think it's like you know, I really do believe that all of the things that have unfolded. I was sharing a little bit of my story, you know, like the people in our life who meet us at different points in our journey may not necessarily always know everything that we went through to get to today, right? Because people see you at a point in time, and and so I I was having lunch with a friend of mine today, and I was sharing a little bit about my my past and my family's history and and things that she'd never heard before, you know. And um like I really I can see now on the other side of all of that, that you know, things have unfolded for for my greatest good and and to empower and enable me to be someone who can really inspire and support and empower other people in creating what they want in life. But I I think it's also important to acknowledge, like, you know, in the future that I'm envisioning and standing for, you know, a human being's, you know, we can logically get it and say, like, yes, that like pain cycles repeat and broken people do bro hurt each other and and all of that. Like logically, we can get it. But I think there's also an important element from the heart to acknowledge that, you know, it it's it's hard to hear that human beings from their brokenness and their pain do these kinds of things to each other. And also I what I really heard in what you were sharing, um, which I think is also really powerful and important to acknowledge, is like what becomes available to us when we take responsibility, not from a place of guilt and shame, not like you did anything wrong, but like, wow, like I am actually the creator of all of it. And I can either create experiences in life that I don't want, or I can create experiences in life that I do want. And I think it's really interesting. Um, you know, I'm doing some consulting in the healthcare sector back in Canada. And um, you know, we just had a presentation last night on this, what's called the health coaching program. So coaching has started to move into the healthcare sector formally, and they're having huge success. I mean, it's early days and the programs are still quite small, but you know, with patients with complex and chronic disorders, they're having huge success with coaching techniques and using coaching programs to support people navigate the system and and get support and shift their mindset and and stuff like that. So I think it's, you know, sometimes the traditional forms of medicine are slow to kind of embrace techniques or modalities that are not seen to be, you know, science or so I I thought that was really promising because I too, like I really share your your view that we have a very like that our minds are very powerful. And I remember, you know, when I was in my early 20s, just after I left my husband, I got diagnosed with um with uh fibromyalgia. And and like I would literally go to work and then I would come home and I would be in so much pain that I could not like I I physically couldn't move. And I I'm not a doctor. This is what I'm about to say is not a medical opinion or anything like that. It's just my lived experience. But when I when I enrolled myself back in school and I started creating the future that I wanted versus being stuck in in the circumstances that I was living in at the time, that that all went away. And I really do believe that fibromyalgia is the physical manifestation of depression in the body. And it's not, it's not that it's not real for anyone who might hear that I'm saying that because it was very real and it is very real, but we can't like the kind of the kind of internal state my mind had during that point in my life. Like you cannot talk to yourself the way that I used to talk to myself and think the thoughts that I used to think and be in the state of anxiety and fear and and self-worth loathing and and all of that without there being some kind of physical because of the relationship between the mind and the body. And to me, that that manifestation in my life anyway, and it might manifest differently for different people. Sometimes it's cancer, sometimes it's diabetes. But for me, the physical manifestation of that depression was was the fibromyalgia. And when I started to create the life that I wanted and achieve the things and move in a in a direction that was positive, you know, those symptoms went away. And I don't experience the the tiredness and the constant pain and those things anymore. So um I really echo, like I really am recreated by your experience.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Yeah, no, I hear you. I know when I had so much chronic pain, I couldn't even sit. I used to twist my hands like this. That's how bad it got. Just my anxiety and my depression and my panic attacks. It was just so much. Can't even tell you. That I told my kids that you're gonna see me hung up in a tree. Now, when I look think back, it's like, oh my god, why did I say that to them? You know, what if they grow up with trauma, you know?

SPEAKER_03 13:47

Uh I mean that's a laughter of recognition. I may not have said that to my kids, but I'm, you know, I'm I'm working with them through personal development and stuff to help them unlearn many of the unhelpful patterns and stuff that I created through my parenting. So, you know, I think that's I mean, that's the gift. And I think when we can bring some levity to it and not make ourselves wrong and get, we all did the best we could at the time, but I I I really do get that. So when you're sharing, you kind of said you there got to a point. What I heard was that there was a point in time where you had a choice to make am I gonna die or am I gonna live? Tell me a little bit about like those moments and and what was it that had you choose to live?

SPEAKER_01 14:33

My kids. Because my little one, she was like maybe just a year old or something. And I was like, who's gonna watch her if something happens to me? What am I doing? What am I thinking? You know, there was it's it was like a pattern, like every month, the same date, something would happen. Car accident, you know, um, letters from CRA. Like something was always going on until when I got really to my lowest point and I couldn't eat. That's how bad it had gotten. I couldn't eat at all. From a cup of tea, I went down to half a bowl of soap soup, actually. And that was too if I had the soup, okay. If not, I would force myself to have ginger ale. That's how bad it had gotten. And it was literally like I used to pray a lot then too, and I I fell asleep, you know, doing one prayer, and that night I felt like I'm in a huge body of water, like an ocean, and it's dark outside. And all I had was hat my hand sticking out. That was that was it, my body's gone. So here I am. I was waiting, like, if somebody can just take my hand and pull me from this. That's what I felt. And that's when I saw a video the next day from supposedly my life coach at the time. And she had posted something on Facebook. She's two years older than me. We went to school, high school, everything together, but we never communicated. I didn't even know she was on Facebook still with me. She had posted a video how she had saved somebody, some other woman from suicide. God, she's gonna be my hope, I guess. Let me reach out, let me speak to her. Because people were telling my parents and this sister as well, save her. My cousin was like after me, you know, detach yourself. You keep attaching to everybody, you cannot save everyone or help everyone, basically, right? If you can't do anything for yourself, I really didn't understand anything at that time because we're so much in the physical, but internally we don't know what's happening. Internally, we never focus within ourselves unless there's I think trauma after trauma, how many times your heart breaks is when your awakening starts happening. So I remember watching her video, I reached out to her. She didn't call me for like three days. She's like, I'm busy, I'll call you. Right. I know when I joined the program, it was like a lot of money, and I'm like, Could you take credit card? Because I have nothing. That's a lot. She said, This is how much it is. Right. So I'm like, okay, so this time I may have to make a quick decision. I'm like, you know what? I'll do it. So the fifth day into the program, I'm like, does this actually work? So I asked her, she goes, put it in the group. She had a WhatsApp group. And everybody's like, You gotta work on yourself, you know, so everybody gets different things out of it. I think literally the sixth or seventh day, I felt everything was like so bright for me. I was dancing like a little child. That's how bright everything got. I started walking. I used to cling to my bed and I wasn't able to walk. My well 17 year old, 15 or maybe around there he was, my son, and he would say such an old set, you know, you need to walk. I'll bring the car if you even get stuck somewhere. And I said, I can't do it. I can't walk. And literally, as I started healing, I started walking, my face started looking better, like everything started changing for me just because I started focusing on my inner self. It's like, you know, when you have a decision that you want to take care of yourself, God even helps you through it. Where I was blaming God for everything, you know, you've taken everything away from me. Don't take my prayers at least. I was like crying, I had brain fog, and that's the way it was, right? And now it's like, as I had healed, it was like everything was a blessing for me from a little school to anything I had in my house, everything became as a blessing.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

It's beautiful. It really is um, you know, I s I think sometimes when we talk about mindset and gratitude, and when we talk about like that we are the ones that like we create our lives, I think it can be conceptual for people. Like it's like, well, you know, like I didn't create the pandemic, or I didn't create that person dying, or I, you know, like, and I'll let whoever's listening to this, you know, wherever you're at in your own journey in this conversation determine the extent, you know, what your belief is or on the extent to which our thoughts shape the world that we live in. But like it's like I remember once I had a coach, we were talking and I was dealing with stuff around my self-worth. And for those of you listening to the show, you can't see my hands, but you can imagine that I'm holding both my hands up flat, kind of palms to the ceiling. And and and um and he said to me, he said, you know, in your in your right hand, you know, Amber is a piece of garbage, and in your left hand, Amber is extraordinary. He said, neither of those things is true. Like in the world of truth or objects or physical reality, like neither of those things is true. But which one empowers you to create the to live the life that you want? Walking around being right about the fact that you're a piece of crap, or walking around thinking you're extraordinary. And it's like, and you can do that with anything, right? Like you can do that with like gratitude, you know, that your circumstances, or it's like I can choose to believe that you know, things are happening to me and I'm a victim of the circumstances that I'm in, or I can choose to believe that things are happening for me, and even though I can't see the unfolding of that, I can choose to believe, you know, and whether you, whether you, whether you're actually a deeply spiritual person, and I think people are on a you know, varying different places on that journey, that though choosing the frame that you have for your life or your circumstances and that simple activity of right hand, left hand, like what do I want to believe? That I'm alone and that no one loves me or I'm not accepted. And like, and I'm in listening to your story, it's like the heartbreaks a little bit because you know, you go back to being that little girl who um, you know, got basically ripped from the the safe home that she'd known in India and brought back to Canada to live with people who you didn't know you didn't have relatedness with. And and this is where it's like language, you know, we say mother, father, like these titles, but really like children create who those people are for them based on their experiences, regardless of biological, this is my belief anyway, biological relationships, right? So of course you spent your whole life wanting to be accepted and and fit in and belong and and feel a part of something, right? And um, but um like there was this very powerful moment for me recently, Rosie, where because I was always someone, and this is very surprising, I think, to a lot of people in my life. I was always someone who fight felt kind of apart from community. Like I've created all of these powerful communities and and and brought people together. But there are often times where I felt like I was like the outsider, not part of it. And I really got That I have a choice about um like what what I believe around things like this. And it's like, I could choose to believe that I'm separate and apart, or I could choose that I could choose to believe that I belong, that I always belong, like that I already always belong. And then I exclude myself from community, but I already always belong, right? And and I just think um for anyone listening to this conversation, wherever you're at, um, you know, look for yourself in the areas of life where you feel stuck or you know the circumstances aren't the way you want. Like, what are you putting in the what's in the left hand and what's in the right hand?

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Yeah. So in your coaching programs, you know, walk me through a little bit, like help us understand how you work. Do you predominantly work with women?

SPEAKER_01 22:54

I have a few guys as well, but most likely it's women, yeah, that I work with, yes, to empower them. Like they're going through almost similar stuff as I went through. Some are worse, some are less. But yeah, I just want to work with women to empower them because there's so much that we as women go through. I don't know, I shouldn't say we are weak, it's just the way we're brought up. Like we're not as aggressive as guys. I don't know if I'm making sense, right? Yeah, because I know I think guys are always the dominant ones in the household, especially in our Asian community, that's what mostly happens. And now that the system's changed a bit, where you know, women are allowed to work outside, but still I believe there's a huge gap because we as women we go to work, we come home, we need to work at home, we need to take care of those kids at home, we need to help them with their homework. And it's not balanced with the man and the woman in the house, and that's where ladies get overwhelmed and they feel like they're just doormats, basically, right? You're you're just being used to do everything, and you get overwhelmed, you go into depression or whatever it might be. You know, we get we get all those diseases, we attract.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

I think there is oh, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

I think it's okay. No, no, I just think there should be a balance between couples.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

Yeah, well, what's like what's there for me when you say that is I think there's a real opportunity, and I don't know that we're fully embracing the opportunity, but I because I think we still get into a lot of like what I call old networks of conversations about gender and and roles and male versus female, and men are emasculating, you know, women are emasculating men and men are a dominating woman. And I think these are like, you know, these are conversations that have been around for a long time. I think I think we do have an opportunity if we could, you know, collectively, um so hold on. What I want to say first, I think it's super important and powerful that there are people out there in the world like yourself who are working specifically with women or to, you know, predominantly with women, because I think um there's a lot of healing. And I'm present right now to the conversation I had on the show, you know, last year with Andrew Harvey around this, um, because I think he had a lot of really great things to say about, you know, the relationship or the dynamics between men and women and why things have ended up the way that they have um in the system, the way the systems have been built. So so that's one thing. And then like, so there is work to do and there is healing to do, and there, you know, but I and I think the opportunity in front of us, again, you know, I always come back to what are we creating? Are we just repeating old conversations from the past or where's the opportunity for us to say something new? Like if we were gonna say something new about that, and it's like, I don't think we've ever sat down or people, you know, and maybe it's happening here and there, but collectively just saying, well, what are how do you define, you know, the the roles in a family or in a household? What would it look like? Because typically, and I remember this, like um I had I was doing a family coaching session, and the gentleman who was leading the session said, you know, your definition of family is not created. If you liked what your parents did, then you replicated. And if you didn't, you do the opposite. But that's not creating newly, that's just repeating patterns from the past. Or, or, you know, it's like kind of front of the hand, back of the hand, right? So what would it look like for us to what does it look like to create newly, what those those rules are, and who how to divide up the work that needs to get done and running a family? And um, you know, how do you even share the the the burdens? I, you know, I had a conversation with someone in my life today who was struggling with something and didn't want to burden their loved one with it and you know wanted to protect their their spouse. And it's like, how do you how do you share the burdens? Because to historically, men bore most of the burden financially for the family, right? So how do we create newly sharing everything in a relationship? Like, you know, and in a partner, like I guess it's kind of coming back to what does partnership really look like and how do you create partnership?

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Right.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Yeah. So what are the kind of what are what are the kind of tools or programs that you do with the woman that you work with?

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Oh, what do I do with like ritualization, imagination, and then who they really are? I usually ask them, Who are you? So that's really deep-rooted, right? And then also going into the deepness of where the problem actually started and why. And then from there on, I we I actually also teach them of how to see things that are happening already. So for example, for the spouse to be helping see that happening, you know, and they're seeing amazing stuff, things are changing. You know, and and like if we control the situation, the situation is controlling you basically. So let it go and just step back and see it, right? For the good. So things do change because when we are resisting that, that's where the issues are occurring.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

It's really great. You talk about you know, the that we compromise our spiritual growth growth, Rosie. And in you know, maybe you can share a little bit about what do you mean by that and and what are some of the ways that you know, through your experience coaching other people that have experienced that people compromise their spiritual growth.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I'm just thinking how to how do they compromise it? They don't I don't think we actually grow with this wisdom from childhood of who we are, because we tend to forget why we are here, what our journey is supposed to be. You know, we end up working hard and not even focusing on our inner being at all. And I believe as much as we we put so much effort, sorry, my throat, we put so much effort into um physically looking good, but we never end up focusing internally, and I think it's the same. I think it matters more of what our mental health is like than our like physical being, yes, but everything starts happening, like for me it did. As I healed, everything in the physical started getting better. I started looking better physical wise. I was like so heavy in weight as well. I used to try like Kerbal Magic, Dr. Bernstein diet, you name it. I tried doing diets at home, nothing helped. I was on pills, nothing helped until I started internally healing. It just felt like, oh my god, where did all that weight go? It was like 48 pounds I had lost, like with like that in a split second, it was gone within three months. Like I didn't even notice. All I noticed was my you know, outfits getting loose and everything, and yet I was on so many medications trying to lose weight. This was all the weight I was carrying around, and it was showing up in physical. That's what I believe in now.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Very cool.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

I am I think there's a real opportunity, you know, for people to really examine how they're living their lives and um the models we inherit so much, right? I think so much of how we live is it's inherited from it from our from our past and society and our peer groups. And I remember like when you were saying we don't like we don't come into the world this way and and children aren't like this, right? And and so much of it, I think comes down to what are what are our standards or our our our measures for success and happiness. Um and and so much of that is for me from my experience is inherited. People don't take the time to, you know, stop and say, what does like if I could create happiness, however, you know, without caring what my parents thought or my peers thought or society thinks, or the magazines that I read, or that, you know, with without comparing my life to other people's, like what would my what would a happy, successful life look like for me? Um and this is what I hear in your sharing is that um by by working with people like you, you'll have the opportunity to really examine those beliefs and examine um how you've constructed your life up until this point in time, and then then you can get to because I think the most powerful thing we can ever get to is choice, yes, decision, yeah, and your burning desire, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:23

What do you really, really and even like happiness? People think happiness is with money. You know, I have so much money, it's happiness, and I see there are so many rich people, too, that are not happy because they're not internally doing the work on themselves. Yes, so once you do work on yourself internally, everything starts changing for you. Like, you know, for me, I just live every day is a is a moment of living in joy, abundance, and prosperity. I don't have like I'm not like rich, rich, but I'm not rich, but you know, just because I have the peace of my mind, I call that richness. That's amazing for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Yeah, yeah. I'm ex I'm super excited, you know, for those of you listening to the show and that that follow me, we're about to kick off a new book club um in the next next week, and we're we're doing a dual feature, The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace D. Wattles and Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. And um, you know, I've read these texts a number of times, but um, you know, I'm also participated in thinking into results. And uh it was definitely one of the programs that made a really big difference in my ability to um, you know, it's not like I think a million bucks and a million bucks shows up in my bank account, but for the first time in my life, um for the most part, I don't worry about money anymore. And I don't, and and I, you know, as you know, as a single mom, Rosie, I think that's like, you know, I spent most of my life checking my bank account and afraid and and not and constantly feeling like I didn't have enough. And and and there's like a very deep faith and and a deep profound sense of knowing that the things that I want and I need will be provided for and taken care of. And and I and I I definitely attribute that to the development that I did, you know, in Bob's work and and and and I did that as well.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

I did thinking into results, and that's what made a tremendous turning point in my life. That's what I actually did as well. It's huge that program, right? Yes, everybody gets something different out of it, it depends on what you're working on. But me healing was huge, that was the biggest thing I got. And then every month the money started flowing, my health started running. Yet I was doing it since 2012, I just couldn't see it. Yes, but as I started seeing everything, it was like, wow, you know, like you're in shock, like it's magical.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

I love that. I um well, and it's so great, and I think it's a great place for us to kind of um, you know, complete this conversation with what you said is you know, you just don't see it. Yeah. So, you know, there could be so many things in our lives that are actually working or things that are happening in our favor, but we're not even gonna see them if we, you know, depending on where what we're focused on and where our minds at. So, you know, Rosie, I just really want to acknowledge you and and thank you for being the kind of person that, you know, not only was like you were willing to do the work on yourself, I think this is hugely important in the world of coaching and people who do healing work is like that that you're that that we're not just people out there selling some, you know, selling something to people. Absolutely. Or were a demonstration of of the power that these kind of principles and and and thoughts and and ideas can have in our own lives. And I see you as someone who's really done that work and and you know, transformed yourself and continues to. And um, so one, I really want to acknowledge you for being that kind of person who's willing to go through the, you know, as we say, the eye of the needle um inside your own life for your children and for you. And just thank you for the commitment you have to to people in general, but specifically women, that they get to live and be empowered and and really get um the transformational, the transformation that happens when we get in what I like to call the driver's seat of our own mind. So just really thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing yourself with me and and my audience. And um I I just wish you all of the the best and and the most abundance in the work that you do.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Thank you. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 36:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Thank you for taking the time out. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. I said thank you for taking the time out for me to interview me for the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

Yeah, you're welcome. It was so great to have this conversation with you.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

For anyone that's like, There's like so much more we can say and keep going, even but there is, I know.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

It's funny. I could probably for you know, some of my guests, I could sit and talk to all day. And and uh we do have opportunities for people to come back on the show and and update us. And so I'm sure there'll be opportunities for us to connect again in the future. And for anyone listening, if you want to connect with Rosie and find out about her programs and what she's up to, you'll be able to find out all of that information in the show notes. Thank you so much, everyone. Have a great week, and I love you.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

Thank you so much for joining us for this week's episode. For more information on the show and our extraordinary guests, check out what wouldamberdo.com.